Hi, we also had insurance but similarly were told that until they go into liquidation our policy doesn't cover us. We paid by credit card, and are having similar arguments with the credit card people, although they have offered us the money for the accommodation back 'while they liase with go upmarket's bank'. we have put in an appeal against go upmarket being struck off, because we were told that if they do get dissolved we don't have a hope of getting our money back... we were told a dissolved company can't be taken to court. I think its worth arguing with the insurance company over the difference between liquidation and strike off action. Hope that helps
Wednesday 24 June 2009
Admin @ 2:24 pm, June 24th 2009:
I received this email from our web server but the return address was incorrect so am posting here, if the author wants to send their correct email address I will send a personal reply.
COMMENT = Do you know if anyone else has managed to claim lost monies via insurance ? We were due to marry there earlier this month, but, the insurance company will not pay out as Go Upmarket Ltd is not in Liquidation. Any ideas?
REPLY Sorry to be hearing of yet more victims of the Vince's I have heard from only one other person with Insurance and they have exactly the same problem, technically they are still trading ... well in fact under many different guises, they are still trading. We had no insurance so went the legal route without any success so this website was conceived in an attempt to warn others.
I received this email from our web server but the return address was incorrect so am posting here, if the author wants to send their correct email address I will send a personal reply.
COMMENT = Do you know if anyone else has managed to claim lost monies via insurance ? We were due to marry there earlier this month, but, the insurance company will not pay out as Go Upmarket Ltd is not in Liquidation. Any ideas?
REPLY Sorry to be hearing of yet more victims of the Vince's I have heard from only one other person with Insurance and they have exactly the same problem, technically they are still trading ... well in fact under many different guises, they are still trading. We had no insurance so went the legal route without any success so this website was conceived in an attempt to warn others.
Andrew J Bell @ 11:40 am, June 12th 2009:
Dragon Hall in Norwich run by Norfolk & Norwich Heritage Trust, is offering a discount of £500 plus VAT to anyone re-booking a wedding during 2009 there that has been let down by Bylaugh Hall. A discount will also be given to those that had booked birthday & family parties. Anyone interested should contact Rachael McLanaghan Events and Administration Coordinator Dragon Hall, 115-123 King Street, Norwich, NR1 1QE tel:direct line: 01603 677 620 rachael.m@dragonhall.org signed Andrew J Bell (Treasurer - NNHT)
Dragon Hall in Norwich run by Norfolk & Norwich Heritage Trust, is offering a discount of £500 plus VAT to anyone re-booking a wedding during 2009 there that has been let down by Bylaugh Hall. A discount will also be given to those that had booked birthday & family parties. Anyone interested should contact Rachael McLanaghan Events and Administration Coordinator Dragon Hall, 115-123 King Street, Norwich, NR1 1QE tel:direct line: 01603 677 620 rachael.m@dragonhall.org signed Andrew J Bell (Treasurer - NNHT)
aa @ 7:07 pm, June 11th 2009:
HI, us too - have paid a deposit for a wedding this summer, not heard anything meaningful from Steven Vince for months - now trying to get money back through credit card. For those of you who already went through the courts and won but he hasn't paid, I presume you've seen this advice from www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk: Enforcing judgment If a court has decided that someone must pay you an amount of money (judgment) and you have not received it, you may want to ask the court to enforce the order. First of all you should read the guidance called I have a judgment but the defendant hasn't paid - What can I do? (Leaflet EX321). It explains what is available to help get your money for you (called 'enforcing your judgment'), and which of the methods of enforcement available is likely to be most successful in different circumstances. You can try to get your money by asking the court for any of the following: * A warrant of execution (Leaflet EX322) - sending a court bailiff to collect the money. * An attachment of earnings order (Leaflet EX323) - stopping the money from the defendant's wages. * A third party debt order (Leaflet EX325) - freezing the defendant's money that is held, for example, in a bank account; or * A charging order (Leaflet EX325) - the money is paid on the sale of the defendant's house. You can also request that the defendant is called into court for an Order to obtain information (Leaflet EX324). This is not a method of attempting to retreive the money owed, but an interview to discover information about the defendant's financial situation.
HI, us too - have paid a deposit for a wedding this summer, not heard anything meaningful from Steven Vince for months - now trying to get money back through credit card. For those of you who already went through the courts and won but he hasn't paid, I presume you've seen this advice from www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk: Enforcing judgment If a court has decided that someone must pay you an amount of money (judgment) and you have not received it, you may want to ask the court to enforce the order. First of all you should read the guidance called I have a judgment but the defendant hasn't paid - What can I do? (Leaflet EX321). It explains what is available to help get your money for you (called 'enforcing your judgment'), and which of the methods of enforcement available is likely to be most successful in different circumstances. You can try to get your money by asking the court for any of the following: * A warrant of execution (Leaflet EX322) - sending a court bailiff to collect the money. * An attachment of earnings order (Leaflet EX323) - stopping the money from the defendant's wages. * A third party debt order (Leaflet EX325) - freezing the defendant's money that is held, for example, in a bank account; or * A charging order (Leaflet EX325) - the money is paid on the sale of the defendant's house. You can also request that the defendant is called into court for an Order to obtain information (Leaflet EX324). This is not a method of attempting to retreive the money owed, but an interview to discover information about the defendant's financial situation.
Juniper @ 6:19 pm, June 10th 2009:
Suggest you get your bailiffs to visit Wood Farm, Reepham Road, Bawdeswell where the Vinces are building their dream home with your money! Until yesterday they were still building there despite his claim that they do not have any money !! There is also his collection of vintage cars stored on the site.
Suggest you get your bailiffs to visit Wood Farm, Reepham Road, Bawdeswell where the Vinces are building their dream home with your money! Until yesterday they were still building there despite his claim that they do not have any money !! There is also his collection of vintage cars stored on the site.
Jerac @ 4:59 pm, June 9th 2009:
My family are another of Vince's victims. In July 2008 we paid Go Upmarket Ltd £4000 as deposit for our daughter's wedding reception at Bylaugh. The contract was very specific - the entrance, the atrium and rooms in the old hall. We visited Bylaugh three days after the repossession and were shown the rooms (which they no longer owned), and were told that the caravan outside was 'security for the building works'. No mention of any problems. A week later we got a short email saying that the event had been relocated to The Orangery. A location already rejected as unsuitable. Does Mr Vince have so little regard for the importance of a wedding reception that he thinks he can move the event about as if it were just a business conference? It was clear that Go Upmarket could not fulfill the contract, and in view of the way we had been dealt with we had doubts as to whether they could provide any level of service, so we cancelled and demanded a refund. This was ignored as was a County Court Judgement we obtained. We now find that Go Upmarket Ltd has simply ceased trading, and the facilities of Bylaugh Hall are being marketed through another Vince company, Tenaxus Ltd. Will Tenaxus Ltd go the same way, and is that what happened to a previous company, Pleasaunce Ltd? An indication of Mr Vince's conduct in business matters is given by his disqualification from acting as a Director, imposed in November 2008 for a period of three years for misconduct revealed when Bylaugh Estates Ltd was put into compulsory liquidation. So having lost £4000 we were faced with reorganising a reception for 150+ people at very short notice. We were fortunate to find The Sussex Barn at Burnham Market. The owner was friendly, helpful, and honest. Despite the trauma caused by Bylaugh (and there was a very great deal of distress and upset), the wedding went well and the reception was a great success. The way that young couples have been treated is disgusting and dishonourable. Hopefully the current publicity will prevent any more falling victim.
My family are another of Vince's victims. In July 2008 we paid Go Upmarket Ltd £4000 as deposit for our daughter's wedding reception at Bylaugh. The contract was very specific - the entrance, the atrium and rooms in the old hall. We visited Bylaugh three days after the repossession and were shown the rooms (which they no longer owned), and were told that the caravan outside was 'security for the building works'. No mention of any problems. A week later we got a short email saying that the event had been relocated to The Orangery. A location already rejected as unsuitable. Does Mr Vince have so little regard for the importance of a wedding reception that he thinks he can move the event about as if it were just a business conference? It was clear that Go Upmarket could not fulfill the contract, and in view of the way we had been dealt with we had doubts as to whether they could provide any level of service, so we cancelled and demanded a refund. This was ignored as was a County Court Judgement we obtained. We now find that Go Upmarket Ltd has simply ceased trading, and the facilities of Bylaugh Hall are being marketed through another Vince company, Tenaxus Ltd. Will Tenaxus Ltd go the same way, and is that what happened to a previous company, Pleasaunce Ltd? An indication of Mr Vince's conduct in business matters is given by his disqualification from acting as a Director, imposed in November 2008 for a period of three years for misconduct revealed when Bylaugh Estates Ltd was put into compulsory liquidation. So having lost £4000 we were faced with reorganising a reception for 150+ people at very short notice. We were fortunate to find The Sussex Barn at Burnham Market. The owner was friendly, helpful, and honest. Despite the trauma caused by Bylaugh (and there was a very great deal of distress and upset), the wedding went well and the reception was a great success. The way that young couples have been treated is disgusting and dishonourable. Hopefully the current publicity will prevent any more falling victim.
LIAR
Posted by danyell at 12:43 pm, June 9th 2009.
Mr Vince stole £3000 from me .. He is quoted as saying that the events could still have been held in the orangery. .. " the brides "didn't have to cancel" and that he would honour all bookings in Bylaugh Hall's Orangery. "
Mr Vince is a LIAR our wedding was planned to be held in the orangery but he failed to assure us that it was going ahead forcing us to book elsewhere. In fact as I have already stated he failed to communicate at all, either to us, to the courts or our bailiffs.
Mr Vince you are a crook of the lowest kind, you have cheated and swindled god knows how many vulnerable young people just starting out in life.
Posted by danyell at 12:43 pm, June 9th 2009.
Mr Vince stole £3000 from me .. He is quoted as saying that the events could still have been held in the orangery. .. " the brides "didn't have to cancel" and that he would honour all bookings in Bylaugh Hall's Orangery. "
Mr Vince is a LIAR our wedding was planned to be held in the orangery but he failed to assure us that it was going ahead forcing us to book elsewhere. In fact as I have already stated he failed to communicate at all, either to us, to the courts or our bailiffs.
Mr Vince you are a crook of the lowest kind, you have cheated and swindled god knows how many vulnerable young people just starting out in life.
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